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Are conservatives working for the Chinese when it comes to green energy?

Posted by admin on February 22, 2013 in Clean Energy with 11 Comments


Conservatives hate Green and Clean Energy. They love coal and diesel trucks in their homes and around their children as long as there is money in it. But in their ignorance, the chinese are development clean green technology for the world. They are learning from their pollution using central planning and intelligence to help instead of knee jerk reactions.

We will be buying old Chinese technology soon at Walmart with our wal-mart health care and wages.
We have a word for that: TRAITORS.

Hey ACS, I can’t buy the name, "average college student," here, I’ll explain. Most college level people post their renewable energy questions under environment, green living. In my experience, the ones posted under "politics" are not looking for answers, just a fight. In your quesion, "the chinese are developement clean green technology…" is a bit below most English 101 standards. Most the college students I teach solar power to have a fairly clear idea where the Chinese are on their green technology scale, and how it relates to ours. The Chinese are dramatically ramping up solar panel construction, but using last decades technology to do it. This is why the warranties on the panels in places like Harbor Freight are so short, and the ones from American Producers all meet or exceed 25 years for panel performance and replacement. The Japanese are another story on panels. While the production quotas are smaller per capita than ours, the technology is slightly ahead of the US, and wavelengths ahead of the Chinese. The Germans are the ones to watch as far as the future of solar power. Do you know how efficient a solar panel is? Average is about 12%, but the Germans solar-thermal-electric Desertec technology will lift that to over 60% overnight once their experimental plant is on line in the Sahara Desert. I’m guessing you’ve not heard of that one. Even a conservative will like the price of solar power once we start heading that way in a few years.

We live in a home that is completely powered by the wind and sun, and has been for over a decade now. The panels at my home are a mix of American and Japanese by the way. So the whole concept of renewable energy not being able to power our country is absurd if I can do it with ordinary hand tools and a few thousand dollars. Up until a few years ago, nobody here wanted to pay for it. Now we do, but many people who don’t understand it, even some liberals, are complaining about it.

If I live in a single family dwelling powered by solar and wind, capturing rain water and heating with solar and wood, can you tell who I voted for? Am I a conservative or a liberal? I work as an airline pilot, have a 4 year college degree, but am covered by a union contract, who am I now? You have to remember that it is not the conservatives or liberals that connect renewable or fossil powered societies to their party, it is the party leaders, intelligent respectful people like Rush Limbaugh and Al Franken. Most people just get pulled along in their thinking. It is the downfall of modern day politics, us voting for parties that in turn tell us what to think. We can think for ourselves, if we bother to take the time.

I’m guessing that of the 10 responses you have here ahead of me, none of them uses solar or wind power, and have probably never laid a hand on a turbine or panel. Yet, they are happy to impart their knowledge on the subject. This has been the downfall of Renewable Energy, a few people who don’t know better, telling everyone else how they think it works. Many people who I work with, even liberals, think renewable energy is a waste of time and money. Then when I tell them my electric bill is less than $5 a month, they pretty much stop talking. How many people have they "enlightened" before they met me? If you’re having a problem with your blood sugar, talk to a doctor about it, not your hairdresser. If you want to know how solar power works, who is building the best products, and which countries are ahead, pick up a copy of Home Power Magazine, not the online political forum. Forget about the Chinese, they are busy loading coal, by hand, into their passenger rail cars to get it to the power plant ( I’m not making this up, you can see pictures of it in USA today articles). Their solar "technology" is born of the same cutting edge thinking. Stick with your homework for now, and I’ll keep watching the skies, and let the political loudmouths talk amongst themselves. Take care, Rudydoo

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  1. Sing itFebruary 22, 2013 - 7:03 pm #1

    You can buy their old junk now at Harbour Freight.

    Green energy is a loosing proposition.
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  2. realistic girlFebruary 22, 2013 - 7:09 pm #2

    I think so. The Chinese are succeeding manipulating the market for green technology.
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  3. EdwardFebruary 22, 2013 - 7:14 pm #3

    We are the fools we spend trillions on green Energy why not stop an let others Develop it an copy it like they do with us.
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  4. Freedom DumplingsFebruary 22, 2013 - 7:56 pm #4

    Excuse me, are you a troll?
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  5. JeffFebruary 22, 2013 - 8:10 pm #5

    Cons are working for the Chinese PERIOD budd.. LOL…
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  6. Racing DownhillFebruary 22, 2013 - 8:47 pm #6

    We are a decade behind the Chinese in Green Energy.

    This is the first time I’ve seen Cons satisfied with being #2.
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  7. MjǫlnirFebruary 22, 2013 - 9:30 pm #7

    I am always amazed at all the things idiot liberals claim I love, hate, think or believe.

    So now I hate Green and clean energy? Because economically they are unviable, and drive up the cost of energy and misutilizing resources I don’t agree with spending billions of taxpayer money on it.

    Green and clean energy only succeeds in cleaning the taxpayer green out of government and stuffing the pockets of Wall Street friends of Obama. If the Chinese are learning, then why can’t liberals and the green companies going bust and taking billions of my tax dollars with them?

    I have a word for people like you: MORONS
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  8. BekindtoAnimals22February 22, 2013 - 9:38 pm #8

    Do you really believe windmills and solar panels can provide adequate energy in an industrialized nation? What do you see as the future of this? Are you willing to live a life of poverty and minimalism to satisfy UN mandates on the emissions of the Western world? Have you even considered the reality of this? No. I’m sure you have not. The people behind this are reversing history. Western nations will now be the communists and the rest of the world will thrive at our expense. We did not create their poverty.
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  9. bmovies60February 22, 2013 - 10:08 pm #9

    "We have a word for that: TRAITORS."

    I’m sure you will still feel that way when I inform you that Obama has sent green jobs to China, right?

    Obama’s China syndrome: EPA gives Chinese millions for green projects

    http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-s-china-syndrome-epa-gives-chinese-millions-for-green-projects

    The 5 Million Green Jobs That Weren’t

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-10-11/the-5-million-green-jobs-that-werent

    Obama’s green jobs bust

    As if Obama’s record on domestic job creation wasn’t sufficiently damning, much of the funding allocated for green jobs has gone abroad. American University’s Investigative Reporting Workshop points out that of the first $2 billion spent on renewable energy projects like wind energy companies, as much as 80 percent flowed overseas to places like China.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/10/obamas-green-jobs-bust/

    Obama’s Outsourcing Far Worse Than Romney’s

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/08/Obama-outsourcing-far-worse-than-Romney
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  10. wichitaor1February 22, 2013 - 10:48 pm #10

    China uses three times the amount of coal that we do. Dang you are dumb.
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  11. RudydooFebruary 22, 2013 - 10:58 pm #11

    Hey ACS, I can’t buy the name, "average college student," here, I’ll explain. Most college level people post their renewable energy questions under environment, green living. In my experience, the ones posted under "politics" are not looking for answers, just a fight. In your quesion, "the chinese are developement clean green technology…" is a bit below most English 101 standards. Most the college students I teach solar power to have a fairly clear idea where the Chinese are on their green technology scale, and how it relates to ours. The Chinese are dramatically ramping up solar panel construction, but using last decades technology to do it. This is why the warranties on the panels in places like Harbor Freight are so short, and the ones from American Producers all meet or exceed 25 years for panel performance and replacement. The Japanese are another story on panels. While the production quotas are smaller per capita than ours, the technology is slightly ahead of the US, and wavelengths ahead of the Chinese. The Germans are the ones to watch as far as the future of solar power. Do you know how efficient a solar panel is? Average is about 12%, but the Germans solar-thermal-electric Desertec technology will lift that to over 60% overnight once their experimental plant is on line in the Sahara Desert. I’m guessing you’ve not heard of that one. Even a conservative will like the price of solar power once we start heading that way in a few years.

    We live in a home that is completely powered by the wind and sun, and has been for over a decade now. The panels at my home are a mix of American and Japanese by the way. So the whole concept of renewable energy not being able to power our country is absurd if I can do it with ordinary hand tools and a few thousand dollars. Up until a few years ago, nobody here wanted to pay for it. Now we do, but many people who don’t understand it, even some liberals, are complaining about it.

    If I live in a single family dwelling powered by solar and wind, capturing rain water and heating with solar and wood, can you tell who I voted for? Am I a conservative or a liberal? I work as an airline pilot, have a 4 year college degree, but am covered by a union contract, who am I now? You have to remember that it is not the conservatives or liberals that connect renewable or fossil powered societies to their party, it is the party leaders, intelligent respectful people like Rush Limbaugh and Al Franken. Most people just get pulled along in their thinking. It is the downfall of modern day politics, us voting for parties that in turn tell us what to think. We can think for ourselves, if we bother to take the time.

    I’m guessing that of the 10 responses you have here ahead of me, none of them uses solar or wind power, and have probably never laid a hand on a turbine or panel. Yet, they are happy to impart their knowledge on the subject. This has been the downfall of renewable energy, a few people who don’t know better, telling everyone else how they think it works. Many people who I work with, even liberals, think renewable energy is a waste of time and money. Then when I tell them my electric bill is less than $5 a month, they pretty much stop talking. How many people have they "enlightened" before they met me? If you’re having a problem with your blood sugar, talk to a doctor about it, not your hairdresser. If you want to know how solar power works, who is building the best products, and which countries are ahead, pick up a copy of Home Power Magazine, not the online political forum. Forget about the Chinese, they are busy loading coal, by hand, into their passenger rail cars to get it to the power plant ( I’m not making this up, you can see pictures of it in USA today articles). Their solar "technology" is born of the same cutting edge thinking. Stick with your homework for now, and I’ll keep watching the skies, and let the political loudmouths talk amongst themselves. Take care, Rudydoo
    References :
    Home Power Magazine, homepower.com
    Solar Energy International, solarenergy.org
    Midwest Renewable Energy Association MREA.ORG
    Great Lakes Renewable Energy Associatiion GLREA.ORG
    Pierce Cedar Creek Institute, cedarcreekinstitute.org
    Wind Power: Renewable Energy for Home, Farm and Business, by Paul Gipe, library

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